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If someone is struggling with acne, or even if they want prejuvenation just say they're in their 20s or 30s, you know or even if they want anti-aging and a little reversal, like what's a good at-home skincare routine that you often recommend.
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Yeah, so you know the.
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You know your bread and butter is going to be a good double cleanse.
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What's a double cleanse?
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Yeah, so double cleanse is honestly one of my favorites.
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It's the best way to start your routine.
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You always start with like an oil-based cleanser to get rid of all that dead skin, the oil, the buildup of makeup.
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That's kind of like your sweeping, and then you'll go on with your second cleanse.
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That could be any cleanser that's good for your skin type, so a glycolic or just a cream-based one, and that's going to be your mopping.
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So you want to brush.
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You know you want to sweep first and then you want to mop the skin.
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So it's a little analogy.
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I always like to tell my clients because you got to do both to get a good slate to your skin.
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So you'd always start with the cleanse, go in with your toner next.
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That could be whatever goal you're trying to reach And's very customizable with that.
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And then, of course, serums and that's what the fun part is serums.
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You can do so many different mixology, so many different combinations.
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Um, moisturizer, of course, keeping up with the skin's moisture, hydration, and then our number one, sunscreen at the end for your day-to-day operations.
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That's really nice.
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Yeah, so do you do a double cleanse in the morning or just at night to get the makeup off and the environmental?
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Yeah, you know I typically just do a double cleanse at nighttime.
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You can do it in the morning.
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If sometimes people sweat a little bit more when they're sleeping or they just feel that layer on.
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I personally just like to do a good first cleanse in the morning time with either a gel or a lactic acid type of cleanser and really get deep in the pores to prep my skin for.
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Yeah, I think that, like your point about the cleansing, is so essential, because I think you know we don't talk about cleanser a lot.
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Everybody wants to go to like the targeted, directed serums.
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But, like, having a good cleanser is so important in order to prep the skin to absorb the actives in the products and if we're not using the right cleanser, to your point, we can strip the skin barrier.
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So what I don't like people to feel is that tight feeling on their skin.
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So, like I like a creamy cleanser that actually is active and the way I can tell so, moon and Skin has created this kale protein cleanser that actually cleanses the skin.
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But when I take toner afterwards and I sweep the skin, I don't see much dirt left.
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So that's how I know my cleanser is doing a good job without feeling tight and raw or burning, because we want to listen to our skin and know it's not burning afterwards.
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Right, yes, yeah, we want to treat it and keep it hydrated and protect that microbiome health because, yeah, exactly, if we strip it, your products and your serums aren't going to really do much for it after Right, there's such a fine line where we're walking, where we're exfoliating and removing the dead skin cells so things can penetrate, but yet not stripping the skin barrier, so it's raw and irritated and we're getting a dermatitis.
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That's what I'm hearing from you.
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Yes, yes.
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So how do we know that we're in that spot?
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I think, just like what you said, if you're feeling that burning or that dryness and almost feeling like you're, if you like open your mouth and you feel it like tug, that's when I tell clients I'm like you know that might be not the best cleanser for you.
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You know you want to keep that hydration, you want to feel your skin kind of have that bounce back to it, and if it's feeling too tight or almost flaky, then that might not be the one for you.
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And how about with exfoliation?
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So with exfoliation, I mean, I've been doing this so long, right?
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So for myself, I know my skin.
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We actually have to get to the point where we look for advice externally, but then we listen to our own body and how our own body responds, and listen to ourselves and intuitively know what we need.
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How do you direct your clients to determine that they need a little more exfoliation or a little exfoliation?
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Because with the seasons, with the seasons of our life, with, uh, our hormonal cycles, like all of those needs are going to change.
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Different geographic environments like when I go to california, I need more exfoliation than in, than in Arizona, where it's dry and my skin doesn't tolerate it.
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So how do you guide people as far as when to exfoliate, like what's a good rule?
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I always like to go in and feel the skin because I think that's how you're going to know what's best for your clients is feeling the skin, what it feels like and what it looks like.
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Sometimes if they have that buildup of texture on, then I would like to recommend a physical exfoliant.
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It could have some different beads or different properties in there to give a good scrub.
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But that also goes back to our acne clients, because if you have that inflamed acne you don't want to do a scrub on the skin because that's just going to irritate it, spread more bacteria.
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So then you would go in with a different type of exfoliant, like a chemical or I'd mainly go with chemical for sure for the inflamed acne.
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But yeah, I guess, just feeling the skin and seeing the texture and what would be a best one.
